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	<title>Comments on: less, screen, vi driving you nuts?</title>
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	<description>oh you want the time travel spinning head?</description>
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		<title>By: rone</title>
		<link>http://dpk.net/2005/10/24/less-screen-vi-driving-you-nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4977</link>
		<dc:creator>rone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The OCHO!</description>
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		<title>By: dpk</title>
		<link>http://dpk.net/2005/10/24/less-screen-vi-driving-you-nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4976</link>
		<dc:creator>dpk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FreeBSD 6 is considered basically FreeBSD 5 with a bigger number. Dunno why it&#039;s not just FreeBSD 5.5, though. Heh. Wonder why they don&#039;t go to 8 ala BIND, sendmail. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FreeBSD 6 is considered basically FreeBSD 5 with a bigger number. Dunno why it&#8217;s not just FreeBSD 5.5, though. Heh. Wonder why they don&#8217;t go to 8 ala BIND, sendmail. :)</p>
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		<title>By: rone</title>
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		<dc:creator>rone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sad thing.  I&#039;m still on FreeBSD 4-STABLE, `cause i&#039;ve heard nothing that gives me enough confidence to go to 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad thing.  I&#8217;m still on FreeBSD 4-STABLE, `cause i&#8217;ve heard nothing that gives me enough confidence to go to 5.</p>
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		<title>By: dpk</title>
		<link>http://dpk.net/2005/10/24/less-screen-vi-driving-you-nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4968</link>
		<dc:creator>dpk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had to upgrade the entire OS one or two too many times, in order to upgrade an application in ports. Like, I&#039;ll cvsup ports, and that won&#039;t be enough because of some libraries found in the base system are too old. There&#039;s no package that lets you upgrade the libraries separately, so you have to cvsup the src and rebuild world entirely.

So with Debian, I can upgrade packages as appropriate, without having to reinstall everything.

Plus, some critical bugs aren&#039;t being fixed in current -RELEASE branches, only to be fixed in the next -RELEASE, whenever that&#039;ll be. Security fixes are done, but serious crash bugs like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/84563&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this PAE bug&lt;/a&gt; don&#039;t end up in the -RELEASE line. So you have to upgrade the entire OS to fix that one tiny two line bug.

With Linux, I can just upgrade the kernel and be done with it.

Plus I can&#039;t seem to get core dumps from FreeBSD 5.4. But I&#039;m probably doing something wrong there, who knows and who really has time to track down bugs when the fixes won&#039;t end up working with what you already have installed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had to upgrade the entire OS one or two too many times, in order to upgrade an application in ports. Like, I&#8217;ll cvsup ports, and that won&#8217;t be enough because of some libraries found in the base system are too old. There&#8217;s no package that lets you upgrade the libraries separately, so you have to cvsup the src and rebuild world entirely.</p>
<p>So with Debian, I can upgrade packages as appropriate, without having to reinstall everything.</p>
<p>Plus, some critical bugs aren&#8217;t being fixed in current -RELEASE branches, only to be fixed in the next -RELEASE, whenever that&#8217;ll be. Security fixes are done, but serious crash bugs like <a href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/84563" rel="nofollow">this PAE bug</a> don&#8217;t end up in the -RELEASE line. So you have to upgrade the entire OS to fix that one tiny two line bug.</p>
<p>With Linux, I can just upgrade the kernel and be done with it.</p>
<p>Plus I can&#8217;t seem to get core dumps from FreeBSD 5.4. But I&#8217;m probably doing something wrong there, who knows and who really has time to track down bugs when the fixes won&#8217;t end up working with what you already have installed.</p>
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		<title>By: rone</title>
		<link>http://dpk.net/2005/10/24/less-screen-vi-driving-you-nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4962</link>
		<dc:creator>rone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why you movin&#039; away from FreeBSD, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why you movin&#8217; away from FreeBSD, anyway?</p>
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